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Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  7 Sep 93       Volume 11 : Issue 177

Today's Topics:

      3270 emulation (Q)
      Advise needed to build a small network
      Apple PB modem
      AppleScript explained
      Chooser Alternatives (Summary & Re-Request)
      Conflicting messages
      converting graphics from MacDraw Pro to PC-Programs
      DiskExpress II (C)
      DiskExpress II (Q)
      DownLoading TT to Printers
      DREL from hell
      easy application switching
      energy saver
      Energy Star Monitors (Q)
      Ethernet card for color SE/30
      Finder Sounds/SndControl (C)
      First Class Client for PC (Q)
      FullWrite Tip (2 msgs)
      Gatekeeper (one additional comment)
      Help: Ethernet and Mac Network
      Is the Speech Manager shipped with new Macs?
      Keyboard for Mac w/o numeric keypad?
      Logging CPU Time (Summary)
      Looking for MST3K Utility
      Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (A)
      Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (C)
      Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (Q)
      Microsoft Word or Nisus? (C)
      MountImage and Installer
      Music composition software on the Mac
      Partitioning Hard Drives (A)
      pathways into darkness
      paying Canadian shareware fees (Q)
      PlainTalk AND Speech Manager?
      PocketDoc, Document Reader
      Q> Naive question, help heeded
      Questions:  tn3270 FTP in  and a flaky boot crash
      SPICE for the Mac
      Switching between applications (R)
      text search
      Typing tutors?
      Util to disable AfterDark while Zterm is running (R)

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 93 08:19:04 IST
From: "Nakhshon Tsouk ([e-mail])"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: 3270 emulation (Q)

Dear Netters.

We are in the precess of connecting our mac network to the campus's backbone.
Some of our researchers would still like to use the old IBM mainframe.
We are looking for a 3270 emulator which will allow user to connect to e-mail
mailboxes, and use  other resources (such as SAS and SPSS files placed on the
mainframe).
Any suggestions regarding shareware or commercial software?
Please send answers direct.

Thanks

N. Tsouk  - Academic computing - School of Education - U. of Haifa - Israel

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 10:29:12 +0200
From: R.A.Varela <[e-mail]> (Ramiro A. Varela)
Subject: Advise needed to build a small network

Dear netters,

    I would very much appreciate to have your advise/suggestions in
which are presently the best options to build a small network.  I will try
to be as concise as possible.

WHAT WE HAVE (not very much, I know...)

3 MACS (LCIII 8/80, SI 5/40,  SE 4/40 w/NewLife 16 Mhz accelerator)
3 PC (AT, 386, 486)
1 Deskwriter 550C
1 Deskjet+
1 postscript HP laser printer

As can been seen, our hardware growth was very, very organized...We want to
change this anarchic  situation!

 WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE (this is like Christmas time, where we all list
our wishes)

1) Data transfer as fast as possible (ethernet-like speed would be great
for our purposes) and mail among the different Macs and PC's. The data
transfer will be mainly large ASCII,  MSWORD and graphic files.
2) Everyone's access to the laser printer and the HP 550C (maybe a local
talk card for the PCs ?)
3) Allow a fast connection between the main VAX machine at the institute
and our future network.

EXPECTED GROWTH: No more than 2 computers/year
BUDGET: 1,500$ is a strict maximum for the hardware. Tell me this is
enough...

Please try not to skip any details you think are somewhat obvious since our
expertise and knowledge in this field is dangerously near zero. E-mail
directly to me and I will very pleased to summarize for the net. Thanks in
advance,

Ramiro A. Varela
GHER Universite de Liege
B5 Sart Tilman
B-4000 Liege (BELGIUM)

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 1:47:41 PDT
From: Dieder A. Bylsma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple PB modem

I just purchased a PB that comes with an internal Apple modem.

Problem is that no docs came with it!

Is there a place on the net that has the command summaries for this
modem?

Thanks

Dieder
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 19:21:19 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Povl H. Pedersen)
Subject: AppleScript explained

There seems to be some confusion about what AppleScript is. Well, it is a
new object oriented dynamic programming language.

AppleScript is a programming language which just like HyperTalk is designed
to be close to natural language, and thus make it easier to get started
with. You can write programs in AppleScript, but there are missing a lot of
the useful library routines, like handling windows etc. AppleScript can
compile programs into stand alone applications (I think they need the Appe
Event Manager system extension).

The strengt of AppleScript is, that if you have scriptable (and preferable
also recordable) commercial Applications, then you can control them 100%
>From AppleScript. I have made a program in AppleScript that talks with
FileMaker Pro, and extends FileMaker Pro beyond what is possible without.
JPEG View 3.0 (shareware) is both scriptable and recordable (builds
APpleScript program to mimic your actions). Rumors are that Excel is
possible also scriptable, but as I keep my system free of bombs and crashes
by not using Microsoft products, I can not verify that.

---
Povl H. Pedersen  -  Macintosh Consultant and Programmer
[e-mail] (prefered)   /   [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 17:25:00 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Chooser Alternatives (Summary & Re-Request)

In early August I posted an inquiry dealing with the Chooser. I was (and
still am) looking for a shareware program that will allow you to directly
select the print device from a pull down menu off the chooser. For example
is you have three laserwriters on your LAN - you currently have to open the
Chooser and select the one you want. I was looking for an app that would
allow you to select the print device from a pull down menu when the Chooser
option in the Apple menu is selected.

I received several replies suggesting that NowMenus or Now's Superboomerang
did this, but they actually only allow you to select the proper driver from
the Chooser, not the individual device.

Colglazier <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I just found this in MacWarehouse:
>"Silver Cloud is an AppleTalk zone and device organization
>tool that replaces the Macintosh Chooser.  it structures
>the network through hierarchical zone folders, to locate
>devices quickly and create devices folders containing
>convenient aliases or (pseudonym references), so favorite
>devices are selected with a click.  For network managers,
>it is an administrative tool which provides a consistent,
>simple "view" of the network tailored to each type of
>user."  p.99  Vol. 21.0

I haven't had a chance to look into it, yet but plan to. Wanted to post a
summary before *tooooo* long. Also, still would like more suggestions if
anyone has them!

Thanks to all who replied!

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 93 17:26:35 EST
From: "Kirke B. Lawton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conflicting messages

I just saw a Newton ad during the US Open, but now I'm confused.
The ad was based on the question "What is Newton" and showed all the
cool things our favorite new Apple gadget can do, but never once
did they use the obviously line.  You know the one Nabisco invested
so much money on:  "A cookie is just a cookie, but a Newton is fruit
and cake."

Sorry, I couldn't resist :)

Kirke

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 09:10:45 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Rolf Eberhardt)
Subject: converting graphics from MacDraw Pro to PC-Programs

I would like to share my MacDraw Pro drawings with the PC users. However,
I haven't found an appropriate filter for such an endeavour.

Can anybody suggest a program doing MacDraw to Corel Draw or Designer
conversion back and forth?


Thank you

--rolf

---
Rolf Eberhardt, Swiss Telecom PTT        [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 12:27:20 -0400
From: [e-mail] (K. David Hawksworth)
Subject: DiskExpress II (C)

>I've been using DEII to defrag my hard discs for some time, now, and am
>quite happy with it.  The thing is that I don't let DEII do its stuff
>automatically; instead, I run DEII manually so that I'm around in case
>anything goes wrong.  My question is, Am I being silly?  Those of you
>who use DEII, Do you trust it _completely_ to do its stuff unattended?
>Thanks.
>
>--John.
><[e-mail]>    ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

No John, I don't think you're being silly.  I've been a DEII user now for
over 3 years, and while I've never had a problem with it, I *NEVER* let it
optimize automatically.  I go even further by not allowing it to optimize
the boot drive (a luxury of having two hard drives attached to my Mac).
There's something about moving around active system files that makes me a
little uneasy.  This may seem a bit overly cautious, but when it comes to
one's data, I don't think a conservative approach is a bad choice.

K. David Hawksworth
<[e-mail]>

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Date: 6 Sep 1993 09:56:56 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David Lerner)
Subject: DiskExpress II (Q)

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>I've been using DEII to defrag my hard discs for some time, now, and am
>quite happy with it.  The thing is that I don't let DEII do its stuff
>automatically; instead, I run DEII manually so that I'm around in case
>anything goes wrong.  My question is, Am I being silly?  Those of you
>who use DEII, Do you trust it _completely_ to do its stuff unattended?


It is pretty good about stopping if it encounters the slightest glitch.
However, I would never leave it set to defragment at all times, because I
think that is too much wear and tear on the drive.  Once a week seems
fine, and that's how mine is set to.

--

David Lerner/Tekserve Corporation/Macintosh service and repair/212 929-3645
163 West 23rd St, New York, NY 10011 USA/fax [phone]/[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 14:22:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Ted Goranson)
Subject: DownLoading TT to Printers

I received numerous responses to my query about permanentlydownloading
TrueType fonts to a PostScript Printer's Disk. They are summarized below.
If these responses are incorrect please advise (most of the responders
did not seem to have confidence in their answers.)

1. When the outlines are downloaded, the Laserwriter utility ex-tracts the
outline. What is sent to the printer is the same whether the source is PS
or TT, namely, a PS outline gets sent.

2. Many "hints" were probably lost when I converted the fonts from PS to
TT, and again more will be lost when I download the outlines to the disk.
But since my printer is 600dpi thatwon't matter to me, but will make a big
difference to owners of 300dpi printers who follow this route.

3. Driver to Printer linkage is through names, but some applications link
to fonts through numbers (mine don't). Therefore, make sure that if you
have different, say Helveticas, make sure that they are discretely named
and that screen outlines and printer outlines are named and numbered
exactly the same.

4. For font family harmonization to work, the outlines need to be
harmonized IN THE SAME WAY both in the machine and in the printer.
(Harmonization helps the printer use the "bold" face to print if the
application's screen is bolded under the style menu, at least in my
applications.)

5. Bottom line: everything will be okay if all outlines are redownloaded
each time a change is made to any face in the computer (ie naming,
numbering, family harmonization, or reordering in different suitcases, one
fellow recommended even if fonts move from the system font folder to
management by Suitcase).

---Ted Goranson

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 93 10:53:52 GMT
From: Michael Everson <[e-mail]>
Subject: DREL from hell

OK, what the heck is a DREL resource?

Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD; Richview, Clonskeagh; Dublin 14; E/ire
Phone: [phone]  Fax: [phone]  Home: [phone]

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Date: 06 Sep 1993 14:17:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (steve jaffe)
Subject: easy application switching

Jens Eickhoff writes:
>Is there a shareware or PD tool that allows switching between applications by
>a keyboard command similar to the <Alt><Tab> of Mess Windoze?

Try ApplWindows -- very nice, and free from sumex-aim.


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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1993 14:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vincent Iannelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: energy saver

I am using the Monitor Energy Saver on an LC III and it seems to work fine.
One
problem I am having is that, unlike many screen savers that are aware of
serial port activiy, the Energy Saver is not, and ofter turns my monitor
off during long downloads.  Is there any way around this?

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 93 18:15:35 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Energy Star Monitors (Q)

    I was wondering what exactly the EPA Energy Star logo looks like.
I have a fairly recent Apple 14" Color Display I bought in May and was
wondering if Apple's Energy Saver control panel is saving me energy or
if I might as well go back and use After Dark.  Only thing on the monitor's
box that might be a star is the familiar recycling symbol; three arrows
forming a triangle in a circle.

Thanks in advance,
Eric

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 93 15:48:31 CDT
From: Hannes Hofer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet card for color SE/30

I've got an SE/30 with a Rasterops colorcard installed.
I would like to hook this machine up to the campus network which requires a
twi
sted pair type connector.
I assume that I would need a ethernet card for this purpose, but my one slot
is
 already taken up by the color card.
Am I SOL or is there a way to do this?
    Hannes Hofer, Rice University, Houston, TX

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 11:50:56 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Joe Yan)
Subject: Finder Sounds/SndControl (C)

>
>  > On my old Mac, running under system 6, I ran a freeware
>  > program from Greg Smith called Finder Sounds, a program that
>  > was not only amusing (whooshing space noises when closing
>  > windows) but very useful (piano tinkling when file copying was
>  > completed, an audio clue to return to work).  Much to my
>  > dismay, this program doesn't want to function on my Powerbook
>  > under system 7, and I miss it greatly.  Does anyone know of an
>  > upgrade or similar program that can fill this void?
>
> You want SndControl.
>
> At Umich:
> /sound/soundutil/soundmanagerpackage1.8c.cpt.hqx
>

I agree that SndConctrol is far and away the best of its kind.
But--don't get version 1.8.  There is a new version out archived in
sumex-aim as /info-mac/snd/util/sound-mover-19.hqx

This is a complete package including Sound Mover 1.9 and SndControl 2.2.2

No connection with the author except that I'm a very happy user.

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 11:50:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Fermin Revueltas Rodriguez <[e-mail]>
Subject: First Class Client for PC (Q)

  Hi

    I want to know if the first class client for windows is availble for
FTP somewhere, I download the client for mac from sumex but the sysop
of the first class BBS here don't have it (and he say that will not pay
for it).

   thanks for any help

  Fermin Revueltas.

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 19:05:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Brian Hall)
Subject: FullWrite Tip

[e-mail] writes:
>Of course, Nisus also supports Append Cut, Append Copy, and Swap Paste,
>and since Nisus changes its menus on the fly to reflect the modifier
>keys you're holding down, you can actually see the right menu commands.
>:-)

FWP also changes the menus on the fly.  Cool, but they should have updated
the MBDF for System 7 (my hier menu inits don't work with FullWrite).

--
__________________________________________________________________________
Brian Hall                                     Internet: [e-mail]
Mark/Space Softworks                             AppleLink, AOL: MARKSPACE
Macintosh connectivity software.

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Date: 06 Sep 1993 22:21:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: [e-mail] (Tim Bates)
Subject: FullWrite Tip

[e-mail] writes:

>In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
>> Here's a FullWrite tip I just learned from the kind folks at Akimbo:
>> Holding down the Shift key while copying or cutting (equivalently,
>> pressing cmd-shft-c or cmd-shft-x) *appends* the selection to the current
>> Clipboard contents.  And option-paste (or cmd-opt-v) swaps the selection
>> with the clipboard.  Wow!

>Of course, Nisus also supports Append Cut, Append Copy, and Swap Paste,
>and since Nisus changes its menus on the fly to reflect the modifier
>keys you're holding down, you can actually see the right menu commands.
>:-)

Dear Adam,
Pick on some one your own size ;-)

I couldn't resist to say that Fullwrite also changes all its menu names
on the fly to reflect the current option key status.
This holds for all items (even when being selected by the walk down
keyboard equivalents (i.e. comm-1 3 gets the the third item on the first
menu). arrow keys walk around the menu(s).

Note also that option modifiers change spell check to check forward,
apply style to edit style, hyphenate to never hyphenate, new to new
plain (non stationery), print to print page, bookmark to new bookmark,
find to find again, clean up to clean up again, windows to next window,
posted note to sound note, index entry, to index selection, and new
ruler to close ruler.

Cheers,

tim bates

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 01:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Owens <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gatekeeper (one additional comment)

> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 14:47:04 -0800
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Gatekeeper
>
> Dear Don't:
> Sumex is about the easiest place to get the complete GK package. It's never
> distibuted in patch form, always the complete package. Try
> /info-mac/vir/gatekeeper<whatever>. Download and de-binhex the file,
> double-click the resulting archive file and watch it put the Gatekeeper
> package, manuals and all, into a folder. From that folder, drag Gatekeeper,
> Gatekeeper Controls and Gatekeeper Aid onto your *closed* system folder
> icon. Allow the older files to be replaced. Restart your Mac and open the
> Gatekeeper control panel. The displayed version number should be 1.2.8.

Might I add that Chris Johnson also adds new files to the privileges list
every release, so one additional step would be to take the Prefs file
before replacing, put it in the trash (which WON'T empty now), replace
the files as described above, restart (which generates a new Prefs file)
and empty the trash. If you want to keep files you've added to the list,
I image you could use the Privilege Mover. His list seems to be pretty
complete though.

- John ([e-mail])

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 15:19:48 -0400
From: John J Patten <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help: Ethernet and Mac Network

 ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am a teacher at an elementary school who is in charge of setting up our
Mac network.  We have a Mac IIci which we are using as a server and 20 Lc
computers.  We were a part of the Jostens Learning Program.  Our Lcs do
not have hard drives (yet).  I have reloaded Appleshare 3.0 on to our
server.  I have created start up disk with Ethernet software for each of
the Lcs.  My problem is that when I start up an LC, use the control panel
and double click on the Network icon, select the ethernet icon nothing
happens.  When I go to the chooser, there are no chooser selections for a
server.  It appears that the LC is not sending the information to the
server.  i do not think it is a cable problem, I feel that I am forgetting
something.  Do I have to do anything special to the LC start up disks
besides loading the Ethernet stuff?  We are running Asante, MacCon+II on
the server and have the ethernet software that came with the Lc's Ether
cards. Any advice would be appreciated,
Thanks in Advance,
John Patten
Lincoln Elementary School
San Bernardino, Ca
Internet:  [e-mail]

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Date: Mon,  6 SEP 93 14:20 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Is the Speech Manager shipped with new Macs?

This is a re-posting because I'm afraid the original message was lost.

Hi,

Here's another FAQ about the Mac Speech Manager (sorry!)

Is it shipped with the System 7.x in all new Macs (as for QuickTime) in
all countries?
I'm going to buy a Powerbook in some week so it would be interesting to
hear it talking!!

Greetings,
                            Federico



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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 20:47:10 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Harry Myhre)
Subject: Keyboard for Mac w/o numeric keypad?

Is there a keyboard for Macintosh without a numeric keypad? I know of the
Apple adjustable keyboard, but I"m thinking of something different. IBM used
to make a 101 keyboard with the function keys above the row of numeric keys.
The numeric keypad on the side was absent. This made the keyboard narrow. I
like narrow keyboards like the one on the original Plus.

I wonder if I wrote Lexmark (IBM's keyboard supplier) if they would know
anything.
--
---
Harry Myhre                                             [e-mail]
Los Angeles, California

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 17:25:08 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Logging CPU Time (Summary)

Some two weeks ago or so, I posted a request for an app that would keep a
log of start-ups and shut downs to serve as a time-card. I received several
helpful responses, the most helpful of which are summarized below.

startup and shutdown times as part of its access log.  As part of its job
it writes a file called
File Sharing Log, or somesuch.

system activity such as potential virus-caused happenings, in a log in the
control panel. This information also includes startup/restart/closedown.

Jack Repenning suggested the program I am now using: Detective. I
downloaded it from AOL. Detective is a FBA (Faceless Background
Application). FBAs, which the author describes as the coming thing, can do
many of the functions of INITs without the conflicts that INITs sometimes
cause.It logs start-up and shut-down dates/times as well as launch and
close dates/times for apps. It does exactly what I was looking, although I
wish I could customize it a bit (don't really need to log apps on one of
the machines). Maybe when the author gets my $10.00 he will send me some
more 'features'.

Thanks to all those who replied! Can't say enough good things about the Net!

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 01:36:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan White <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for MST3K Utility


 A while ago, I recall seeing a utility that would place a silhouette
 across the bottom of the Mac screen like that of Mystery Science Theatre
 3000.  Does anyone know of its name/location ?

 Thanx in advance

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Date: 6 Sep 1993 18:19:57 +0100
From: Timothy Murphy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (A)

[e-mail] writes:

>In fact, if you turn it
>on and off once per day, it is likely to survive twice as long as if you
>leave it on continuously.  In fact, an argument can be made for cycling the
>computer on/off often during your first year, so that any defect will be
>more likely to show up while your warranty is intact.

These 2 statements seem contradictory to me.
If turning the computer off and on in the first year
is likely to cause problems,
isn't it also likely to in subsequent years?


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [e-mail]
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Date: 6 Sep 1993 18:22:53 +0100
From: Timothy Murphy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (C)

[e-mail] writes:

>But it would be a good idea either to turn off the power on the monitor,
>or, (better:) install a small screen saver (f.i. BasicBlack).

But do screen savers actually save power?
If so, roughly what percentage?
And do they actually lengthen the life of the monitor?


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [e-mail]
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1993 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "DAVID R. ANDERSON" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (Q)

This discussion is very interesting to me, I have a related
question.

> good for the hard drive.  My question is, What's my best strategy?
> To leave my Mac on all the time, or not?  (Presently, I leave my Mac on
> 24 hours, but switch off the (external) monitor at night.)  Thanks.

My question: when I leave my SE/30 unattended for about 90 minutes
the hard disk becomes active. The disk reads are continual for several
minutes (I can't determine that any disk writes occur). I click furiously
with the mouse and it may take two minutes or more to regain control
of the Mac.

I have the same behavior on two SE/30's. Each has OS 7.1 installed
with 4 meg memory and 80 meg hard drive. I suspect the use of VIRTUAL
MEMORY is the problem.

I have used Disinfectant 3.2 to check for virus, I use Gatekeeper.
Extensions have been removed as a test. I still have the problem
with disk access.

Currently I am inclined to turn off the SE/30 when I am not using it.
  :(

Thanks in advance for any suggestions to avoid my problem.

Dave Anderson
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 15:50:37 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Microsoft Word or Nisus? (C)

John Thoo asks about choosing between Word, Nisus and something else for
his dissertation, which will include text, graphics and pictures. I am
familiar with Word, Nisus, FullWrite, FrameMaker and have passing
experience with WordPerfect. I'd recommend either Nisus or FrameMaker,
depending on your needs.

Nisus has a lot of writing conveniences like non-contiguous selection,
essentially unlimited undos (and just about everything is undoable), append
cut, swap paste and so on (I learn in today's digest that Append Cut and
Swap Paste are undocumented features of FullWrite). Nisus also has multiple
clipboards, but you may be able to get most of the functionality of that
>From Olduvai's MultiClip.

Nisus has a nice drawing module, better than Word's but not so good as
FrameMaker's. Will you want to autonumber your graphics and pictures?
There's a free downloadable macro that does this in Nisus, but it's built
in in FrameMaker, and easier to use.

Will you be likely to find yourself doing repetitive formatting operations
or wanting to do complex find and replace operations? If so, Nisus is the
only game in town - its superset of grep is its standout feature and the
Powersearch mode that hides the ghastly Unix ancestry of grep is brilliant.

Are you likely to want equation processing or tables? If you need
e-processing you should buy Word or (better) FrameMaker; you can get
similar functionality in Nisus but you have to buy a duo like Expressionist
and Tempo as well. I don't use tables but the people on the Frame list say
FM's table maker is better than Word's (tho' to paraphrase Mandy Rice
Davies, perhaps they would, wouldn't they?).

Do you want lots of different languages in the same document, including
fantastically exotic ones (or "less taught" as they're known here)? I
believe Nisus is ahead of the pack in implementing WorldScript. It's a
niche Nisus Software's gone after determinedly.

Are you likely to want to change your graphics and pictures after importing
them? If so, programs like Word and WP that implement Publish&Subscribe
have the advantage if you have the relevant graphics app(s) and they can
Publish. FM has a more flexible option called Import by Reference, which
doesn't require the creating graphics app to Publish. Word has a similar
facility. Don't know about WP and I forget about FW.

I've never taken WP seriously because of its feeble search/replace
capacities. FrameMaker's biggest flaw is its lack of multiple undos and the
restrictions on the number of actions that can be undone. For example,
global search/replace can't be undone. FM allows some complex
search/replace conditions, so to be safe you have to imitate undoable
global s/r by saving just before doing the global s/r and quitting without
saving if you don't get the results you wanted.

The good thing about FM is that it's a page layout program for long
technical documents. It has the best book features, and allows arbitrarily
formatted text to be placed in any position on a page. On the other hand,
if you want text to wrap round a graphic, it's a real struggle - an
astonishing "feature" of a layout program. However, graphics in the margin
or above and below text are no problem.

Hope these disjointed comments help.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 08:58:18 -0800
From: Rob MacDuff <[e-mail]>
Subject: MountImage and Installer

I have used Apple's Disk Copy program to make backup disk images of
programs (easier than duplicating floppies). However Apple's Installer
program does not seem to want to run off of the virtual disks created with
MountImage. This is a real nusiance, does anyone know why?

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 18:14:28 +0000
From: [e-mail] (K. Suphamongkhon)
Subject: Music composition software on the Mac

Hi all,

Does any one know of any good music software for composing music on the
Mac?  Please reply directly to me by E-mail.

Thanks,

Kob

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 14:56:18 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Partitioning Hard Drives (A)

Joshua Hart asks how to partition a hard drive into multiple Mac volumes.
Quite possibly there is shareware or even freeware that'll do this, but if
not, then the three best known commercial partitioners are SilverLining,
Hard Disk Utilities and Drive 7. Silverlining is quite expensive, as is
HDU. However, there is something called HDU Personal Edition, which is
about the same price as Drive 7. HDUPE lacks some capacities in HDU that
the ordinary user will never miss.

As far as I am aware, the main convenience that Drive 7 lacks is that you
can't resize partitions without reformatting the drive (this could be
outdated info). HDUPE and HDU both allow you to enlarge, but not shrink,
the size of a partition without reformatting (or so a tech guy at FWB told
me - but he didn't seem awfully sure). SL can resize partitions without
reformatting but you'll have to ask La Cie if this includes shrinking.

I use Diversified Disk Utilities from Diversified I/O (it came with my
drive). It doesn't resize without reformatting but apart from that I'm
completely satisfied. I believe it may be cheaper than any of the others.
415-961-6406. For the others, call any of the usual mail order places -
Mac: Zone, Connection, Warehouse etc.

Parenthetically: the main rationale for multiple MacOS partitions is that
you waste less space on the drive if you have lots of small files (the
minimum allocable block size is smaller the smaller the partition). On the
other hand, according to David Ramsey in MacWeek a month or so ago, if you
get a big drive, then whether or not you partition it you lose performance
as the heads leap to and fro from the system to the app to the file. He
recommended multiple smaller drives instead. Anyone care to comment?

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Seth L. Ness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: pathways into darkness

hi,
i've run into a dead end in PID. heres some space in case of any spoilers..

















ok. i've gotten as far as i can go. i killed the blue flame throwing
monster on need a light but i can't go down from there. ive gone as far up
both ladders in happy, carnage as i can. and on the first skitter level
i'm blocked by the force fields and on th elevel below it(watch your step)
i'm also blocked by force fields and theres nothing else for me to do. help!!





Seth L. Ness                         Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 20:42:49 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: paying Canadian shareware fees (Q)

I've never had to pay out-of-country (US) shareware fees before, and
was wondering how I should pay for the game Rescue!, which asks for
``$10 in US or Canadian funds.''  Is it OK simply to send a personal
cheque (drawn on a US bank) to our neighbours to the north?  Thanks.

--John.
<[e-mail]>    ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 93 18:18:49 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PlainTalk AND Speech Manager?

Do the PlainTalk (archived as MacInTalkPro at ftp.apple.com) and the
Speech Manager extensions run independently of each other or do they
both need be present to be functional?  The Plain Talk package is
fairly big and comes with an extension and 3 voices.

Thanks for any advice,
Eric

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 09:20:45 EST
From: [e-mail] (James Hunt)
Subject: PocketDoc, Document Reader

I have ReadMe documents prepared by "PocketDoc" and "Document Reader", but
not the applications themselves. Does anyone know if these are available
>From any archive?

Thanks.


[e-mail]  (James R. Hunt)
Bull HN Information Systems Australia Pty Ltd

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 12:36:59 KDT
From: [e-mail] (Park YoungHo)
Subject: Q> Naive question, help heeded

Hello.

I think that this question is not adequate to this group.

I want to use binhex in my Mac to use S/Ws in public domain.
But, I don't know "HOW TO INSTALL BINHEX in My Mac".
I use SunOS4.1.1 and Mac SE/30.
Mac is not connected to network, so I have to ftp in Sun WS and
move programs ftped to Mac.
Because Sun WS support only MSDOS formatted diskette, I must use
diskette(MS-DOS format) in transfer programs from Workstation
to Mac(Using "AccessPC").

I ftped "binhex4.bin", and moved that program via MS-DOS diskette.
I was only to fail to use binhex execution file. The file I acquierd
is just text file.

Please Let me know the solution.
(Since I am not in this group, mail to me directly.
 My e-mail address is [e-mail])

Thanks in advance.

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Date: 06 Sep 93 10:44:19 EDT
From: Matthew Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Questions:  tn3270 FTP in  and a flaky boot crash

From:  Matthew Mitchell
Two intriguing problems I hope the net can solve:

I use tn3270 to log into an IBM mainframe from three different remote
 Macs.  At two of them, things are fine, I can FTP back to my Mac to
 download files.  However, at the third the Mac doesn't seem to respond
 even though "FTP enable" is turned on.Can you help??

 Second, about one in five tries, my Mac+ 4/60 (sys 7.0.1tu) gets
 a system error (illegal instruction, if I remember right) just after
 my last init loads and before the Finder loads.  There seems to be
 no pattern to these crashes I can detect.  How about that one??

TIA and Howzat|?|
Matthew Mitchell   <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 20:23:14 PDT
From: "Anthony E. Siegman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SPICE for the Mac

The following is an excellent low-cost educational implementation of
SPICE for the Mac:


"B^2 Spice" and  "B^2 Logic"

Beige Bag Software
715 Barclay Ct.,
Ann Arbor MI 48105
313-663-4309

[e-mail]

It's not a complete SPICE, but it will do most things you want.

For a list of other versions of SPICE for the Mac, see a review of
circuit analysis and other EE programs for the Mac that I posted to
the info-mac archives a year or two ago.  I think it's stored under
the title "circuit-programs.txt" (Moderator?).

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 08:12:05 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Switching between applications (R)


On 06 Sep 1993 Jens Eickhoff <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Is there a shareware or PD tool that allows switching between applications
by
> a keyboard command similar to the <Alt><Tab> of Mess Windoze?

Jens, I use [./gui/application-menu-40.hqx] myself.  It lets you set hot keys
that will pop up the application menu (the item in the far right of your menu
bar) wherever your mouse pointer is.  Two notes: ApplicationMenu is FREE; it
requires System 7.

Hope this helps.
--John.
<[e-mail]>    ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 09:27:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Bare-Bones Software)
Subject: text search

>What would be the best utility for searching multiple text files for
>text strings?

That would be either BBEdit Lite or BBEdit 2.5. The former is available
for anonymous FTP from sumex.stanford.edu, in /info-mac/text, and the latter
(a demo of the commercial version) is available from sumex.stanford.edu,
in /info-mac/demo. Both are available from world.std.com, in /ftp/pub/bbedit.

BBEdit Lite is free, BBEdit 2.5 (non-demo) is not, but is very inexpensive
for students.

R.

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Date: 6 Sep 1993 19:12:26 +0300
From: [e-mail] (Esa Ristil{)
Subject: Typing tutors?

I am looking for a typing tutor program for mac.
I know of a commercial product called Mavis Bacon teaches typing
but I was wondering if there are any PD/SW products around.
Quick look at the usual archives gave me nothing.

--
               Esa Ristil{  *  [e-mail]
                 Homo homini lupus

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 08:15:01 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Util to disable AfterDark while Zterm is running (R)


On 3 Sep 1993 Adam P. Conn <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a util to disable AfterDark or any screen saver while I'm
> downloading, but to not completely turn it off. Any help?

Adam, go to the AD control panel, click on the When button, and then check
the System IQ activity monitor.  From now on, AD will not kick in while ZTerm
is up/downloading files.

Hope this helps.
--John.
<[e-mail]>    ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 17:11:01 -0400
From: Normand Beaudoin <[e-mail]>

From: [e-mail] (Normand Beaudoin)
Subject: Microsoft Word or Nisus?

Preliminaries.
I sent the following message about word processors few days
ago. I received few, very valuable but few, answers! The reason
is that as an unexperienced netter I certainly did a mistake in
the way I sent the message. I suspect that it is because I
began with the line "Subject". The subject of my message
did not appear in the list of topics and the message itself
was completely at the end of the info-mac document. Now I
try it again, beginning with the line "From". I hope it will be
correct. If you see this message at the bad place once again,
please tell me what is that beautiful mistake I always do!!!
End of preliminaries

MAIN SUBJECT:
I plan to buy, learn, and use a word processor, particularly
for a doctoral thesis which will contain text, graphics and
pictures. I have a limited time for that job, so I absolutely
must not do a mistake with the choice of the word
processor I will use. Is there other word processors better
than Word or Nisus? What Nisus can do that Word cannot and
vice versa? Which one should I choose?????

Thank you very much!

Normand Beaudoin

[e-mail]

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